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Question about the new 2023 NEC rule on AFCI protection for kitchen fridge circuits
I had to choose between installing a dual-function AFCI/GFCI breaker or trying to use a regular AFCI with a GFCI outlet for a fridge circuit in a Reno job last month. Went with the dual-function Siemens QF220A because I figured one device was less hassle than two. It went fine, but now I'm hearing some guys say the dual-functions can nuisance trip more on fridges. Has anyone else run into that with the Siemens ones specifically?
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garcia.miles2mo ago
Good call going with the dual function, that's the cleanest install. The nuisance trip thing is real with any fridge that has a variable speed compressor, those things put out some weird harmonics. Siemens are actually better than some other brands for it, but you still might get a trip on the initial startup surge if the fridge is older.
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emmar752mo agoMost Upvoted
Actually, I've had the opposite experience with Siemens. Their boards seem overly sensitive to any load with a motor, even new ones. My neighbor's brand new Bosch fridge tripped his Siemens breaker twice last month. It's not just an age thing, it's how they're calibrated from the factory.
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finleybutler13d ago
You know what, I used to be firmly in the "Siemens is bulletproof" camp. My whole panel is Siemens and I never had issues. But hearing about your neighbor's Bosch fridge really makes me think. I've got an older fridge with a standard compressor so I never see that, but a buddy of mine just put in a new LG with a variable speed one and he's had to swap breakers on his Eaton panel TWICE. I guess the harmonics thing is way more real than I thought. Maybe the sensitivity is actually a feature to catch something weird, not a bug.
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